I’m done trying to make peace with the other woman. Now what?

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  1. I win! I win! I win! “Refocusing my attention” as you called it makes me feel like a winner every day. It feels so good to “do the right thing” and not care what she does or doesn’t do. I have committed to always doing what I feel is right regardless of how she does or doesn’t respond/react. It has given me great peace. I am only sad that I know from her responses/non-repsonses that she still hasn’t reached the same level of peace and acceptance that I have attained. But that is her own journey and responsibility.

  2. Jenna says:

    Not so, you got it! I love how you recognize she has her own “journey and responsibility”, and that yours brings you peace :)

  3. PeaceMaker says:

    Oh, I’ve been done for quite a while and I wish I’d done it sooner! Would have given me more strength for the crazy court battles I had to deal with.

    If a woman is constantly putting you down, spreading lies about you, lying to you, to your husband/her own children, involving her children and yours in sick twisted games, attacking you verbally and physically, threatening lawsuits constantly, just an overall trouble maker…let it go! Let the woman go through her misery alone, and stay away from her. Save yourself! RUN the other way! It is not YOUR job to deal with insanity!
    I would say if a woman did one of these things once, bless her, lift her up in prayers to God and let her be!

    I hope I’ve made myself clear, lol. Honestly, the sooner you realize that you cannot reason with insane behavior, the better off you are. Don’t be a martyr.

  4. Nancy says:

    Another great article, Jenna!

    I think the point of detaching until you understand, is to separate yourself from what the conflict is really about. Is there even any truth to your place in the conflict? Realistically, is there going to be resolution by you or the other woman? Some things are truly found in the need to search for internal peace, mental solitude with purpose, it’s an individual experience. And if one isn’t ready, than the truth is, one just isn’t… but there is no reason to perpetuate unfound reasons for hatred that only destroys the self. Timing, the other person has to be in the same place at the same time, willing to make peace.

  5. Jenna says:

    Peace and Nancy, I couldn’t agree more!

    Peace, it’s true, the only person we can change is ourselves, so while the other person might be struggling with the situation, it’s not our job to stand by and be a punching bag for them.

    Nancy, I love what you say about separating yourself from the conflict. This goes back to what some call the stepmom’s mantra; “it’s not personal”. Because in reality, whatever is going on with the other person, unless you’ve been a total jerk, isn’t about you. It’s about them.

    We are each responsible for our own happiness. Putting it in someone else’s hands is just reckless!

  6. Lee says:

    What a fabulous post! I have broken up with my ex’s new wife. Same story just different slant! Sometimes you have to take out that negative energy so you can breathe!

  7. Jenna says:

    That’s right, Lee. It gives you time to breathe, space to get a broader perspective and a break to the awful pattern!

  8. Celisa says:

    This is great. It’s exactly what I had to do to move forward. I have refocused on my family, my household, my career, and social life. I realized that the tension with BM was affecting every other part of my life. I felt that I practically had no control over what happened around me (when it pertained to SS and BM) in my own home then the epiphany came………..Set boundaries and step back. It was a process and once the “let go” was complete, things increasingly changed in time within my marriage, and relationships (in general). I was/am happier. I felt/feel at peace. I was/am no longer in the “middle” so to speak. And I marvel at it. ;) I’m working on not reliving the past so as to stay peaceful, and I’m also working on learning to see BM as someone who is hurting. I want to have compassion for her. I genuinely want to FEEL that I want her to experience happiness as well. There are times I can feel that, and other times I blame karma for the things that go wrong for her, and I don’t want to do that. It’s been almost 3 years since we’ve talked and I occassionally struggle with this. It’s becoming less and less though and I guess it’s true what they say. Time does heal. I have moments I want to reach out again, but then…..I remember and an affirmative “no” ecompasses me, so this is where I am right now, and I’m ok with it.

  9. Jenna says:

    Celisa, it sounds like you’re in an ideal place :) . If peace between two people isn’t possible, it doesn’t mean it’s not possible within ourselves. And it’s so true, that inner peace has a positive impact on all other aspects of our life. I hope more women can make it to that place, eventually :) .

  10. Amber says:

    This has really helped me realize that I need to stop trying to make things work. I would rather focus on the good, of watching my step daughter grow up and the good times we spend with her rather than focusing on the crazy drama that the ex brings. We are still in a custody battle with her that seems to never end. I’m trying really hard to keep myself out of contact with her, and with a cease and desist order she put on me, it was made very clear we will have no contact with one another. I just hate hearing the verbal abuse she gives my husband. Anyways to deal with that other than just being supportive of my husband?

  11. Jenna says:

    Hi Amber, a couple of suggestions for dealing with the verbal abuse against your husband, I would tell him that you want to be a supportive wife, but that it’s very hard for you to hear all the details when it comes to the verbal abuse. Ask him not to share that with you anymore. You don’t need to know the details in order to be supportive of him. Right? Let him know that you want to be a positive and hopeful with him, and can’t do that when you bogged down with all the negativity from his ex.

    How does that sound?

  12. Mugs says:

    Amber, I have struggled with the exact same issue. While I have so far managed to apply appropriate boundaries (even when the ex wasn’t respectful of them) and remain “above” the continued harassment directed at me, it is almost as painful to have to stand in the wings while she aims all of her violence and vitriol at my husband within earshot. I did try Jenna’s advice and found that it was simply to hard for me to be in the dark – I felt impotent and unbalanced and became concerned that perhaps I was not receiving critical information in his attempts to protect me from the madness. My advice? Keep your perspective and accept the woman as she is. Sounds simple. But it isn’t, and it takes some practice. We are so predisposed now to immediately taking everything said and done to us by this individual personally, even in those rare instances (if we were truly being fair) it isn’t intended that way. I have found that the less I examine every detail and nuance of the abuse and simply accept that this is a person without the self-control and moral center that I possess, the better able I am to provide the voice of reason for my husband, and be a more focused support system. He already has one unstable woman in his life, he doesn’t need another. :) The fact is she will likely never accept me and you know what? THAT’S OK!

  13. Emilina says:

    Last Fourth of July BM gave me the finger and stuck her tongue out at me. I was totally appalled and thought of her as a pathetic human being who must be very unhappy with her life. I sat pondering over it, called her and asked if we could talk. She was reluctant but told me okay. About an hour before our meeting she cancelled. A few months later my husband ended up doing therapy with her and the boys because the boys were really affected by everyone’s hostility. She basically told the therapist that I don’t matter and I shouldn’t have any say in how the boys should be raised in MY house. She also told the therapist that I was the one who had a problem with HER, not the other way around. Hmmm…..okay?! Her thought process must not be working well. That was months ago and it has eaten me up inside ever since. Last week I wrote her an email, waving the white flag, apologizing for any hurt I cause her. I have not gotten a response and probably never will, my DH says. I am trying so hard to make things work and getting no cooperation whatsoever. I am left feeling desperate and at odds with myself and what my step-sons must think of me or what their mother must be telling them at her house. I want my life back. I want to stop obsessing over her and the need for her approval. I think about it 24/7 and I am exhausted. I cry myself to sleep because my brain just won’t rest. I am sorry I sound like a pity party but I am just tired of all this turbulence in my life.

  14. Jenna says:

    Emilina, the blog post I’m publishing tomorrow addresses exactly this predicament – waiting for her approval. I hope it helps give you some perspective. In the meantime, I would suggest stepping back and not giving her any more of your power. Stop trying to make amends with her. Each time you try and each time she rejects you, adds to your hurt. Please turn the focus back on yourself and what you need to do to take care of YOU. Her resistance to you has nothing to do with you. Trust me! :)

  15. Emilina says:

    Thanks Jenna. I will definitely being reading your post tomorrow.

  16. Emilina, Jenna’s post was hopefully insightful to you. I can’t put it nearly as eloquently as she has, but I have been there. I know the place you are at. That was the beginning of the turning point for me. For about 2 months I started having very strong feelings that I wanted to leave my husband and just go back to my life before him with just my girls and our son. I just couldn’t take it anymore. I was also so depressed that when I was PMS I started getting overwhelming feelings that something was medically wrong with me. I thought I was sick somehow and that I was going to die. And/or I had feelings that I wish I would just fall asleep in the tub and drown. I have always been a strong person and the thought of suicide is forbidden in my mind so when reality hit me that I was so depressed out the situation I was in that I wanted to die, I know I had to do something. Forget about fixing HER. I NEEDED DESPERATELY TO FIX ME. That’s about the time I started reading Stepmonster and started a local meetup group so that I could meet other stepmoms. PHASE 1 – Knowing that I wasn’t alone and that others were going through the same thing as me. PHASE 2 – Cutting off all of my communication with hubby’s ex-wife and putting all the responsibility back on hubby. PHASE 3 – resisting the urge to fight back, defend us, or retaliate when she (in actuality or in my mind) had served us an injustice by violating court orders, saying negative things to the kids etc. PHASE 4 – releasing the anger and finding something else to focus my energy on. That’s how I got to my happy place. “Life appears to me too short to be spent in nursing animosity or registering wrongs.”
    – Charlotte Bronte

  17. Joanna says:

    This article is brilliant. Thank you so much! I feel a burden lifted off of my shoulders after reading this. LETTING GO of my angst & emotional stress concerning my husband’s ex will be the best thing for me ever. Thanks again- keep doing what you’re doing!

  18. Maria says:

    Great article..sometimes peace can only be had by no longer caring, and realizing the only actions you can control are your own.

  19. Jenna says:

    Thank you, Joanna and Maria! I’m glad you’ll be able to find some solace in stepping back and turning your focus inward :) . Good luck and keep us updated on your progress!

  20. Mel says:

    Ah, I love this article so much I re-posted it on my facebook page, no doubt the ex will see it! I made this decision about 6 mths into my relationship. My partner has 2 (14 & 4yo) children to 2 different woman, and I knew both of them before as my partner and I were ‘bestie friends’ for 25 years. Thank god we were, as I have told him any other woman would probably run a mile from this sort of situation.

    We got together after second BM left him when the bub was just over one. Due to his teaching schedule, I did the cooking, bathing and bed time for him, we shared the night shift. When we decided to let her know we were together, bub was nearly 18mths. I tried my hardest to communicate and make things easier for us all, to no avail. She was, and still is, 3 years later, determined to isolate me from her child in my own home – to the point that she will no longer allow overnight visits and only allows him in the house when she thinks I am at work. My partner, did not tell her I no longer work full time and hasn’t for 2 years – she lives under the impression I have very limited contact with her child. (it wont last, although nearly 4 he has speech delay, but the day will come when he tells her I am home) Naturally I got peeved at this, how dare either of them try to control when I am in my own home!

    Then I decided, who cares what either of them do or say to each other? I love my partner, but he is an adult, as is she, and I will not carry the burden of guilt for both of them. So, I leave them to their petty games and emotional issues, whatever they will be. I have set VERY firm boundaries on my house and home and I only speak up when they are breached for whatever reason. I don’t care what the reason’s are – no exceptions or I sell up and move(the house is mine, although both our names are on the mortgage). This has worked so far.

    I grew up in 3 separate step families and know what it feels like from the childs point of view – therefore, I concern myself only with my stepsons wellbeing, and even then, only that which is in my control.

    My partner is slowly divorcing himself emotionally from his ex – it is harder for him than for me as it is his journey to deal with her.

    As for the ex? She still plays her games. Its infuriating to her that I respond to spite, abuse and manipulation with love, consideration for her mental welfare and more often than not, nonchalance. She is in my opinion, a fool, and why should I worry about what or how she stuffs up? She’s not the only mother with questionable parenting and social skills around – there are plenty out there.

    My partner says that at times I can be a condescending and patronizing bitch to the ex. Perhaps, that is a valid point. Do I care? NO!!!! Why should I worry about how she views my behaviour when no matter what I do, it will never be right, simply because she thinks I have what she wants?

    You cant concern yourself too much with the ex. You really do, have better things to do. Like living your life well, happy and healthy. Roll model how to live the ideal life for the ex. Maybe, one day, she’ll understand. Maybe not. Ask yourself, do you really NEED to care???

  21. Elaine says:

    I am the biological mother of four children who were taken from me by my ex-husband, after he openly declared that I would get nothing from him but the divorce. He proceeded to turn my children against me, and shortly afterward to make his new wife feel sorry for him so that she would take over the children and care for them as if she were their own mother.

    I tried for years to get along with her. I was nice to her. I extended olive branches frequently, thanking her for caring for the children and so on only to have my hand bitten off. She frequently spreads lies or half truths about me through the internet, and I know my kids see these things, and think they’re true. They take offense though if I say that it’s not true, because then I’m calling her a liar. The last straw was when she accused me of trying to starve my kids to death on a 3 hour visit where I gave my son the only thing I had in my purse to eat, and I didn’t have any money. She yelled at me, calling me names, and verbally assaulting me after I had just said a friendly hello.

    I finally gave up, and it was so nice to see this post that helps me not to feel so guilty that I finally gave up trying to get along with her. I did my best, but she is toxic and I can’t deal with her. My ex is just as toxic and they’re turning my children into them. I often feel hurt about this, but I deal with it the best I can and try to avoid them whenever possible.

  22. Megan says:

    Hey all, I’m new to this blogging stuff, but I really need some advice from some other stepmothers/second wives… I met my fiance, I’ll refer to him as JT, 3 years ago and yes, it started up during a very confusing time. Basically, his wife, TT, had an affair during their marriage, asked him for an “open marriage” and then asked for a divorce after their daughter was 3 months old. Now of course I did not know all of this right off the bat… I was told at first by JT that him and his wife were seperated…come to find out a few days later when TT walked in the house and found us together…well lets just say it wasn’t pretty. Of course I was confused at that point and unsure of what to do exactly. I really liked JT from the start and I wasn’t sure what was going on in his mind. Well, anyway, after him and her had a heated discussion while I waited in the bedroom, she left and he assured me that their marriage was over as far as he was concerned. I guess a week after she asked for a divorce, their was a huge fight and she ended up packing most of her stuff and their 3 month old daughter and fled to her parents house… Naturally after years of this type of behavior, JT was finished.

    So I guess this all makes me the “other woman”. For months there was A LOT of obscene things going on between all of us. Things being posted on the internet, ridiculous lies and false accusations being thrown during the divorce process. Of course I wanted to remain in JT’s life and I helped him all the way through his nasty divorce and it was very trying to witness his depression not only from the divorce, but he was VERY limited with visitation to his daughter. For 8 whole months he was only allowed superivised visitations on Sundays for 4 hours! He had felt that TT was witholding their daughter simply because he no longer wanted to be with her and virtually he picked me over her. I can see how that would not sit well with any woman. However…

    While I can empathize and sympathize to the best of my abilities, it’s been 3 years now and I have found it increasingly difficult to communicate with the ex. She absolutely refuses to have any kind of interaction with me what so ever. I feel very sad and frustrated about this because caught in the middle of all of this is the most wonderful little girl who I have helped raise since she was 9 months old. We have a very close bond (not a mom bond, just a very good friend bond). I’ll call her AT. I have been very careful about over stepping my bounds as a “stepmother” type. I do love her so much and I consider her definitely family.

    Even though, JT and I aren’t technically married, I really feel this desire to get to experience certain things like family school events particulary and JT is very hesitant about my attendance to such events. This really frustrates me and makes me upset even though I know he doesn’t intend for me to feel that way. I understand that he worries what TT will do if she sees me attend a family school event. Who knows how awkward it would be, but I really want to go just for AT. I REALLY do want to get to take pictures and see her in performances with her friends and just get to experience something like that that makes her happy. I understand that it’s not about MY desires… I have no parental right to AT, but it’s just really hard especially when I have tried so many times to reconcile with her mom. I have apologized up the ying yang and I know that we don’t need to be friends, but I at least want to be civil enough that I can attend a couple school events! She just refuses to have anything to do with me and continues to blame me for the demise of her marriage. I have a lot of resentment too towards her though for not taking responsibility for her part in the divorce.

    Anyway, I know this is long, but this is just really difficult and I just need some advice about what to do… should I be able to attend school functions or bday parties or whatever? Maybe not all, but like 1 or 2? Is that so wrong of me to want that? Also, how do I deal with AT (who is almost 4) asking me to meet her mom? How do I respond to comments like “my mommy is mad at you”?

    It’s very hard to just accept that this woman refuses to even speak to me… I feel like I have to pretend I’m invisible at drop offs and when AT is at her moms house, she is not even allowed to speak my name! That is just so wrong! I have been in her childs life for 3 freakin years, obviously my continued presence is going to affect AT’s life… yet she just thinks that everything is none of my business.

    Any advice or comments would be helpful and appreciated, thank you for listening to this over due rant, lol.

  23. Amber says:

    I totally feel your pain, and would also like to hear anyone’s advice on this subject as well. I have been a part of my SD life since 9 months old as well. BM refuses to deal with me in any way, even when it comes to stuff as far as the heath of her daughter…You could probably say SD and I have a great bond, as I’ve helped raise her basically…She’s 2 year old now. My husband and I have been married for a year and together for almost 3…

    “Of course I wanted to remain in JT’s life and I helped him all the way through his nasty divorce and it was very trying to witness his depression not only from the divorce, but he was VERY limited with visitation to his daughter. For 8 whole months he was only allowed superivised visitations on Sundays for 4 hours! He had felt that TT was witholding their daughter simply because he no longer wanted to be with her and virtually he picked me over her. I can see how that would not sit well with any woman.”

    –I know exactly how you feel…BM would only allow 1 hour every Wednesday for my husband to see/hold/spend time with his daughter…I never thought about the withholding thing until now…But I feel that’s what she was doing…My husband moved on because BM left him before they were even married, they were engaged, but she broke it off. I think there is some form of jealousy from both BM towards me and me towards her…I have no children with my husband yet, and somehow BM has something with my husband that will connect them forever.

    I too have tried to apologize for things, and try to be somewhat civil for the sake of my SD, but sometimes I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall…And that BM will never change. I’ve tried to ignore BM and her family, but it makes it hard to have a normal life when she’s always seeming to pop up in our life even when SD isn’t with us.

    “should I be able to attend school functions or bday parties or whatever? Maybe not all, but like 1 or 2? Is that so wrong of me to want that? Also, how do I deal with AT (who is almost 4) asking me to meet her mom? How do I respond to comments like “my mommy is mad at you”?”
    —-I would talk to JT and see if there can be something put into a parenting plan allowing everyone to come to school functions…That’s what we had done to prevent our BM from letting me and my family come watch SD in school plays/recitels stuff like that. As far as birthday parties, I would do seperate parties. We’ve done this for the past 2 years and honestly it works out better for my SD. That way there’s no drama, or the potential for you and TT to get into it in front of AT.

    Does JT have regular visitations? Has all of that been decided on through the divorce? Trust me it’s so much easier to get it all in writing and have a solid plan with EVERYTHING spelled out even who’s allowed to pick up and drop off at school. I was banned from BMs front door by her, but now I’m allowed to pick up my SD from BM’s house becasue of our parenting plan. It makes it a lot easier for holidays as well. Trust me I know it’s hard to want to be so involved with you SD life, but having a controling BM who basically hates your guts, it’s best to let her me miserable and you enjoy the time you spend with AT at your house. TT can’t control what you do on your time with AT….I’ve learned this the hard way too. And don’t let her control what goes on in your house. Tell her the important things she needs to know. Let your house be the fun house that AT loves coming to…You’ve tried so many times to make AT’s mom be civil to you….I would just give it more time, and maybe she’ll change. I feel for you because it seems like we’re dealing with the same BM almost.

    “It’s very hard to just accept that this woman refuses to even speak to me… I feel like I have to pretend I’m invisible at drop offs and when AT is at her moms house, she is not even allowed to speak my name! That is just so wrong! I have been in her childs life for 3 freakin years, obviously my continued presence is going to affect AT’s life… yet she just thinks that everything is none of my business.”
    —Again I know how you feel, everything that’s discussed with my husband and BM are between them…according to her….But the thing is this is my life too, and I have helped raise this little girl…I’m sure BM doesn’t like for my SD to speak my name in her home either, but the way I look at it is why do I care what goes on in BM’s house? I’m not a controling person and I could really care less about what’s going on there. I’m never allowed to speak to her either, and if I do I get something nasty back, so I just don’t talk to her anymore…She’s not worth my time. But I do feel bad for AT because she is the one this is going to affect the most and it’s not fair to her to have 2 people fight over her basically for her love when you both love her very much. I think there’s some jealousy there on your end too, and TT might see how wonderful your life is as a family and she knows that she’s missing out on that. You’re potraying a happy family and she’s hates that because maybe in some way she wishes that was still her, JT and AT….
    Hang in there I know it’s tough!! Definatly look if you have a parenting plan set in stone, you may want to get one done if you don’t or revise some things to allow you to be a part of ATs life, and not have to hide in the shadows. Look forward to hearing back from you!!

  24. Jenna says:

    Amber and Megan, we have a private Facebook page full of both moms and stepmoms who can support you and give great advice as well as a different perspective. Click on the link and then request to join :) . https://www.facebook.com/groups/212073038865213

  25. Bridge Spiker says:

    I too have “broken up” with the BM, but I don’t know how the let go of all of the pent up anger!!! So much has happened and 5 years of constant crazy train shenanigans, I was quiet for most of the those years until I finally snapped! I know that none of what was said between us and finally blocking her from my FB and cell phone has helped, I want to just coexist for the sake of the SK’s. I do not EVER say anything about her in front of the SK’s….

  26. Jenna says:

    Thanks for the comment, Bridge. It’s difficult to not be angry after all those years, I’m sure. Try to remember that her reality is just that, it’s how she sees the world. That doesn’t mean it’s the truth about you or the world, but it’s true to her. And she’s allowed that reality. Sometimes when the gap between two people’s reality is SO large, it’s better just to walk away. Your stepchild will benefit more from you being peaceful and separate from her, than trying to make it work but being angry and spent. Good luck and take care of YOU. :)

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